“Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble.” — John Lewis

Sensei Chodo gives a moving and wide-ranging talk, discussing: Bodhidharma meeting Emperor Wu, breaking down and explaining the meaning behind the heart sutra, and the wisdom inherent in our primordial nature. He also shares lessons from The Blue Cliff Records and the animated master, Winnie the Pooh. He finishes his talk by paying tribute to John Lewis, who passed on July 17, 2020.

ZenTalk Notes:

Sensei Robert Chodo Campbell is a co-founder of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care and is part of the core faculty for the Buddhist Track in the Master in Pastoral Care and Counseling at Zen Center’s education partner, New York Theological Seminary.

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Music: Heart Sutra by Kanho Yakushiji –  Buddhist priest and a musician of the Rinzai sect and Imaji temple in Imabari, Japan. In 2003, he formed “KISSAQUO”, a songwriting duo based in Kyoto.

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